Transforming Fear into Your Greatest Superpower with Renata Barletto

Join Rob Pene as he sits down with transformational coach Renata Barletto for a deep dive into emotional wellness, self-discovery, and the radical shift from fear-based to heart-centered living. Renata shares her powerful journey of transformation and reveals the coaching methods that help her clients break through limiting beliefs and step into their authentic power.

https://www.instagram.com/renatabarletto

About Renata Barletto

Renata Barletto is a transformational coach specializing in emotional wellness and personal growth. She helps high-achievers and conscious leaders navigate the delicate balance between being and doing, while teaching them to use fear as a catalyst for positive change. Her unique approach combines radical accountability with heart-centered decision-making to create lasting transformation.

Key Topics Discussed

Self-Discovery & Personal Transformation

• The journey from external validation to internal wisdom
• Why self-discovery is the foundation of all meaningful change
• Breaking free from limiting beliefs and societal conditioning

The Fear Factor

• How to transform fear from a barrier into a launching pad
• The difference between fear-based and heart-centered decisions
• Using fear as valuable information rather than a stop sign

Radical Accountability

• Taking complete ownership of your life choices
• The "me versus me" mindset for personal growth
• How accountability accelerates transformation

Being vs. Doing

• Finding the balance between action and presence
• Why success isn't just about doing more
• The power of being present in your decision-making

Heart-Centered Living

• Learning to trust your gut instinct over conditioning
• Making decisions from love rather than fear
• The role of surrender and trust in personal growth

Powerful Quotes from This Episode

"It's me versus me." - Renata on taking personal responsibility"Radical accountability and ownership." - The foundation of transformation"You can choose to trust and surrender." - On heart-centered decision making

Key Takeaways

• Fear can be your greatest teacher and motivator when properly understood
• Radical accountability is non-negotiable for genuine transformation
• Heart-centered decisions create more authentic and fulfilling outcomes
• The balance between being and doing is crucial for sustainable success
• Every choice you make shapes your current reality and future possibilities
• Self-discovery is an ongoing journey, not a destination

About Renata's Coaching Approach

Renata brings a unique edge to her coaching practice through her emphasis on:

• Emotional wellness and authentic expression
• Transformational processes that go beyond surface-level changes
• Integration of movement and dance as healing modalities
• Focus on actionable steps rather than just problem analysis

Future Projects

Renata shares her vision for a dance studio that combines movement with healing, creating a space where people can express themselves authentically while working through emotional blocks.

Transcript

Rob Pene (00:01.29)
Okay, we have Renata Barletto with us. She's gonna blow your mind because she is a coach and she works with people to rewire their minds and their emotions so they can be a much better person. And that's how I ended up coming across her profile. Cause my For You page is a lot of sports, faith stuff and in personal development. And her approach is a little different.

I like it. It's very strong. I think she's got the word sassy in her profile. So I dig it. And I'm like, yo, man, can I interview you? I've got some questions. So this is Renata Barletto. Thank you for being here. Thank you.

Renata Barletto Coaching (00:32.882)
Ha ha ha.

Renata Barletto Coaching (00:44.218)
Absolutely, Rob. Thank you so much for having me on. I'm excited to chat with you today.

Rob Pene (00:47.374)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I usually start, my friend calls it the ignition question. Each of the episodes start with this question and it usually then will guide the conversation because something will pop up. I'm like, oh, interesting. The question is, if you were to look at the last six to 12 months of your life, right, if you were to assess the last six to 12 months of your life and you were to turn it into a Netflix special, what would it be about and what would it be called?

Renata Barletto Coaching (01:22.384)
not having to come up with a title, right? Like us perfectionists, I'm like, it has to be perfect. It has to describe everything perfectly. It would be about self-discovery, coming into your own rebirth.

Rob Pene (01:25.198)
I

Rob Pene (01:37.217)
Mmm. Mmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (01:42.854)
And when I say coming into your own, like taking ownership for your life, right? Like transformation and paired with that self discovery is like self belief. And what would it be called?

Rob Pene (01:46.958)
Please.

Renata Barletto Coaching (02:02.952)
Hmm.

Rob Pene (02:06.946)
We could probably put a few things together. But I like the idea of rebirth. And then what was the other one coming into your own?

Renata Barletto Coaching (02:16.082)
Yeah, coming into your own, discovering your power. Really, the title would be something about that. Like, like, like she did it, you know? Yeah.

Rob Pene (02:19.778)
Yeah

Rob Pene (02:25.352)
Yeah, okay. So what about the last six to 12 months brought about that transformation or that rebirth? Like were you doing something different? Did you start something new or is it more internal?

Renata Barletto Coaching (02:41.768)
I did both, both, one leads to the other, right? So I feel like one of the things that I talk about a lot in my practice and in my coaching is the balance between the being and the doing. And so in answering that question, it's like, did you do something different? Did you change something or is it like internal? it's like,

Rob Pene (02:58.872)
Mm-hmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (03:07.408)
it's both because in order to really, really make any kind of change, something's going on in here as well, right? Like there's a shift inside. And so yeah, it's been a few years coming. I've been in my own personal growth and development life and transition and transformation for a while. And I got to a...

when you're when you know you're meant for something more and with my clients and I talk about this a lot. It's like when you when you know it, there's a cognitive dissonance going on in your body, almost in your soul. You can feel yourself hitting a wall. And so I had known for a while, but I finally got to the point almost a year ago today, maybe. It might have been a year ago today where I was like, I am

Rob Pene (03:55.245)
Mmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (04:02.374)
I'm done. Am I allowed to swear on your podcast? Great. Where I was just like, fuck it. It's time. So I had been gearing up. knew I'd been in coaching on some level or another my whole life. A lot of it was like on the fitness realm or the wellness world. And my degree is in psychology. And so I knew I was heading in that direction and I just didn't know how it looked. And I just got to the point where I was like, can't do two things at once.

Rob Pene (04:05.216)
I think so.

Rob Pene (04:18.52)
video.

Renata Barletto Coaching (04:31.336)
Like my heart can't be in this where I'm like ready to start my own business and I'm ready to, you know, really make an impact and help others or whatever it was going to look like. And also be in this like corporate sales job where I'm constantly stressed out and I'm constantly like operating at these high levels and working 12 hour days and like, you know, not that you don't work long days as an entrepreneur, but very different. And so it just got to got to a head and I was like, I'm done.

Like no plan, just let's go, let's time to leap. And so yeah, that's what I did. I quit my job essentially. I went to commission only and I went to Croatia with an old friend from college and was like, bye, and I had a reset and came back and then just started, yeah, building my brand, building my business. And then I also went through a major transformational.

coaching program or a transformational training around that same time. And that also really, really shifted my whole mindset and my being. So it was like, I took the action and then I transformed the way I look at the world. And the two things came together to create this person that's growing every day in front of you now.

Rob Pene (05:42.741)
Rob Pene (05:49.718)
Okay, that's fun because when you change your perspective, things around you change. The problem with that, I think, is it's very hard, because perspective is birthed by all of your history, right? All of your experiences from childhood, all the time. So it's deeply embedded in you. Like, how did you end up like just changing everything and then having the courage to like go do your thing, you know? Like, did you, it's tough.

Renata Barletto Coaching (06:19.77)
It is. It is tough. And you know, the crazy thing is like, it's it's us. The tough is just us. It's like it's me versus me. It's you versus you. Right. Even what you're speaking on is conditioning. Right. It's it's like whether it's societal or the way we grew up or our peers or our family and friends like pop culture. It's just been hammered into us.

Sure, but all that requires, and I shouldn't say all because for me to make a major, major shift, it took this particular transformational training to physically and emotionally shift me, but there's many ways to get there. A lot of people do it in different formats, but it's taking ownership really was what it is. It's like, okay, yes, these are all of the ways in which I was raised. These are my limiting beliefs. These are...

the lens in which I see the world because of these experiences and perspectives, like you said. And now, if I live by the belief that I'm 100 % responsible for everything in my life and I can be accountable for everything, how might I shift so that

those stories from my past no longer dictate the way that I move through the world.

Rob Pene (07:50.574)
Mmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (07:52.209)
And when you believe that and feel that in your body, and I'm not saying it's an overnight thing, it is a consistent, it's a practice, it's work. There are days when I fall back into the victim stories of like, well, I never learned how to do this and I'm not sure. Sure, okay. But then it's like, okay, yeah, that's how you grew up. These are your triggers and these are your conditioning. Okay, great, and now what?

choose something different because you know better now and you know what you want and it doesn't look like that. So if that's not working, then what's next? Right? Like I say that a lot, like, and then what? Okay. Now what? What's next? Like the old stories are fine. We can talk about them a million times again and again. And to be honest, I'm not hating on therapy. I've been in therapy. I've done therapy, but I considered going back to become a therapist and actually chose coaching because in my personal opinion, it's more focused on

Rob Pene (08:20.366)
Mmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (08:50.268)
getting out of the loop and like, like not just talking about it, but okay, great. What's next? How might I shift? So the answer to your question is radical accountability and ownership.

Rob Pene (09:05.816)
Man, that sounds so hard and scary.

Renata Barletto Coaching (09:10.696)
You know, you know what?

Rob Pene (09:11.256)
So.

Renata Barletto Coaching (09:16.326)
You're right. And it's a choice. It's a choice for it to be hard. It can actually be easy.

Rob Pene (09:24.43)
Oh, okay. Okay. And obviously change is possible, but the timeline can also change if you say, you know what, I choose for it to be easy. Yeah. You said something recently that I thought was like, whoa, that's a t-shirt. Fear is a launching pad to the next great thing.

Renata Barletto Coaching (09:26.845)
Mm-hmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (09:39.538)
Yeah. Yeah.

Renata Barletto Coaching (09:51.528)
Hmm.

Rob Pene (09:52.556)
in one of your videos, you're talking about fear, because I think fear is debilitating for everyone. It's just a matter of how they view it, right? Because you were like, do you ever get playful with fear? Maybe you should, because fear can actually do this, this, and then it's the, what is it here? It's the launching pad to the next great thing. Can you unpack that? There's so much wisdom there, you know?

Renata Barletto Coaching (10:16.284)
Yeah. man. I love, I love knowing that the videos even resonate with one person, know? It's like, I don't have a huge social media following, but it's great to know that like a tidbit reaches someone, It's like an honor. So I guess I can absolutely unpack it and...

That's a really good example here.

Rob Pene (10:48.43)
is fear clouds judgment. Yeah? Would you agree that? Fear clouds judgment.

Renata Barletto Coaching (10:49.424)
with

It clouds your judgment.

Yeah, can create, depending how we look at it or our relationship with it, it can cloud judgment, it can shut us down, it can make us, I used to get and still can get into a decision or analysis paralysis where it's like, I allow it to overtake me. But when I say fear can be the launching pad to the next great thing, it's like, how might you...

Utilize fear as a superpower instead of looking at it as a weakness, right? Because I don't know if you're familiar with shadow work at all, but when we're, I can get into it really quickly, but like when we're doing the inner work and we're healing, a big part of that is looking at our demons, right? Looking at the side of ourself, like our shadow self, right? The side of ourself that we feel

ashamed of or are afraid of or, you know, the negative aspects, quote unquote, the negative aspects that make us who we are. Being able to face that person who's also us with love and patience and appreciation, it allows you to, it's a huge healing element, but it also, allows you to then not run from those things, but utilize them.

Rob Pene (12:07.937)
Hmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (12:23.922)
Right. And so it's the same thing with fear. When we're able to face our fear instead of running from it, what can what can be birthed from that? And to go a little bit further into the unpacking, I have a metaphor that I really like to use for this. So the universe starts to move for you when you start to trust it. Right. And so fear will have you know, Stay with me, Rob, stay with me. So.

Rob Pene (12:31.448)
Hmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (12:54.088)
So fear will have you on, let's say like a ledge, right? Like you're on this ledge with no bridge, right? You're over all this open sky and you're like, well, I can't step forward. I can't step forward because if I step forward, I'm gonna fall. That's fear, right? Trust and surrender, which is the opposite of that, would have you say, hey, what if you stepped out and you were fine?

Rob Pene (13:00.759)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (13:16.502)
Hmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (13:23.44)
And so when you're like, I don't know, and you're in that phase of like thinking about trying something or thinking about taking risk and you're like, I hear you, but I'm not quite ready. don't want to, I don't want to leave the safety of whatever relationship job, like ego, right? Ego is the thing on the platform holding you there. And

Rob Pene (13:40.27)
Hmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (13:44.283)
If you're able to look fear in the eye and basically be like, you know what, like I'm going to actually choose to trust and surrender even with this fear present and like use it as, as a fuel, you can launch yourself from that, that ledge that you're on. And when you do that, that's when you find the steps or the bridge or the parachute or the wings.

whatever it is that's gonna protect you from the fall, they appear. But you have to take the risk and lean into the fear and trust in order for that to happen.

Rob Pene (14:19.179)
no.

Rob Pene (14:25.806)
So camera and then audio, she's good. She's good.

Yeah.

Rob Pene (14:36.718)
I don't know if that's scary or challenging. because if you want the universe to work for yourself, then you would have to trust that the universe, right? I forgot what you said, but my contention to that is, well, historically speaking, the universe behaved this way to me, or I reacted this way to the universe, right? So.

Renata Barletto Coaching (15:05.137)
Those are two different things.

Rob Pene (15:07.456)
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. So why is the next time going to be different? When for X amount of years, it's been this pattern and then all of a sudden, right? Now I get that it can happen, but getting there, it can take, I mean, yeah, it's tough. It's...

Renata Barletto Coaching (15:33.938)
Do you want my coach response to that?

Rob Pene (15:37.102)
Like suck it up, suck it up.

Renata Barletto Coaching (15:38.824)
Guess what? No, not at all. at all. Rob's like, fuck, I didn't realize I was getting I was going to be publicly, publicly brought through my own shit. My my I don't want to call it an argument, my counter to that or like my invitation. What I would invite anyone into on that specific comment would be like the universe isn't doing anything when you're like, these patterns.

Those patterns are ours. They're ours. It's, yeah.

Rob Pene (16:11.244)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, we chose. Yeah, we chose to do it from a broken frame.

Renata Barletto Coaching (16:19.506)
Correct, correct. Oftentimes, right? Like you can't look back and be like, the universe fucked me over so many times. That's not it. The universe is the reason you're still here. And when I say universe, don't, you know, it's whatever you believe, right? Like it's God, it's source, it's universe. I just say universe because it's an all encompassing term, but sometimes I do say God. Sometimes I do say source. It's like, it's energy.

Rob Pene (16:20.387)
Yeah.

Renata Barletto Coaching (16:49.308)
Right? If atheists would call it, it's energy, it's frequency. And now we actually literally have proof, scientific proof that shows it's like the spirituality and the science actually are merging. They shown what's possible in frequency and energy and in all this kind of healing work, what it does. So, yeah, not to throw anyone off by saying universe, because it could be God or whatever that is for anyone.

Rob Pene (17:15.854)
Yeah, right, right, right, right. So how do you, because I disagree with a lot of sayings, right? Yours is amazing. You can be who you want to be. You can be, you know, all that stuff. No, you liar. I can't be the president of America. can never, ever, you know, I will not be the president. No, I'm not going to say that. And trust your instincts, right? That's a slippery slope.

Renata Barletto Coaching (17:19.336)
Mm-hmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (17:24.69)
Mmm.

Rob Pene (17:44.034)
Because if you trust your gut, but the pattern of your instincts say one thing, right? That's where it gets confusing because sometimes your gut can be based on like something you learn that's influencing how you're feeling that'll change your behavior. But the majority of the time, if you're just operating under instinct, it's gonna be based on how you've developed.

throughout all these years, right? And if your experience has been negative, therefore it only makes sense that your instinct is gonna choose negative.

Renata Barletto Coaching (18:23.324)
That's interesting. I hear you. I hear you. What I'm hearing in that is your definition of gut in that moment or in that instance is more conditioning. And when we're actually coming from what we call gut, gut instinct or like, yeah, a gut decision, if it's truly that, this is of course all opinion, right? This is my opinion.

Rob Pene (18:39.438)
Mm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (18:52.856)
but it's, it's coming from the heart center, the heart space, like a healed place. It's this, it's this, and, and a lot of us, a lot of us in this society are very disconnected from that. I heard in one of my trainings, someone said the 12 inch drop from the head into the heart is the longest one for some of us. Yeah. Isn't that great?

Rob Pene (19:00.514)
Hmm. Hmm.

Rob Pene (19:08.024)
Mm-hmm.

Rob Pene (19:17.506)
Wow

Renata Barletto Coaching (19:21.628)
because so many of us, and honestly me until the last year, truly, and it's another one of those things that I have to practice regularly. I get to practice regularly because it's not automatic to be in my heart space. People are like, you're so open, you're so grounded. I'm like, I'm glad it comes off that way, but I'm up here a lot, a lot. And so a lot of what we think are gut decisions or our instinctual decisions are actually coming.

Rob Pene (19:43.277)
Hmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (19:49.448)
from the headspace. I feel like I should do this. This seems like the right thing to do as opposed to when you're actually connected to your heart center. It's different. It's almost like your soul speaks to you. And it's just this little like, boop, that feels right. This feels good as opposed to like this shuts my energy down. It doesn't feel good. It's much more like led from truth. Does that make sense?

Rob Pene (20:17.548)
Mm-hmm. It's like your own personal moral compass, per se.

Renata Barletto Coaching (20:19.08)
You

Exactly. And, and so, but, but to your point, you're right. Cause so many people are, are cut off from it. So what often feels like what can feel like a gut decision. I was, this was my whole twenties, like, you know, just flying off the seat of my pants and making gut decisions. Some of them were instinctual, you know, choices. And a lot of them were like a bastardized version of gut choices based on like you're saying.

like conditioned behaviors, limiting beliefs, like whatever it may be. And then we disguise it as like a gut decision, but it's really like an unhealed version.

Rob Pene (21:04.12)
Good word, good word, unhealed. I think the beauty of choice is that we can wipe away all of that past track record by being brave enough to make one choice, right, at that moment. And then it's a momentary move, but you have to have the courage to choose that. And sometimes the ability to choose can be debilitating because you're like, woe is me, but you can snap out of it just as fast.

You know, yeah. Yeah.

Renata Barletto Coaching (21:35.248)
Yes, 100%. Literally, the rest of your life is one decision away. I love that you just said that. You literally are in choice at any given moment. It's amazing. It is scary. It's super scary. It's super scary because you know what that means, Rob? When we accept that as truth, yeah, it's empowering to know. Like, I can make a different decision in this moment, but it is debilitating because it also means

that I'm fully responsible for everything that's happening in my life right now. You know, like I've chosen everything. people get so hung up on their victim stories. And I was perpetrator number one of this, right? Like just like, my God, like you said, woe is me. I call that a victim story. And we get really, dig in, we dig in hard and we want to justify that like everything's happening to us. And it's like, no, no, you're here.

Rob Pene (22:06.391)
Yeah.

Hmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (22:33.992)
You are here right in this exact seat in this exact moment because of every decision that you've made. Good, bad, or indifferent. It's not a shame, blame, or guilt thing, right? But it's just like, yeah, you're empowered. And so if someone's not willing to take responsibility for that, then yes, it can be very debilitating to find out that choice is 100 % ours. if you're exactly like you said, if you're brave enough to be like, I can fucking handle this.

then it's exciting.

Rob Pene (23:03.918)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Would you say that the edge that you have in your personality is what makes you different from other coaches?

Renata Barletto Coaching (23:16.592)
What edge?

good question. Good question. Good question. To a degree, yes. Yeah, I don't want to make it seem like I'm just constantly out here yelling at people. I'm also very like compassionate, loving person. And there's there's absolutely softness worked in. yeah. Yeah. Define edge. How do you?

Rob Pene (23:46.35)
Yeah, was just gonna say edge to me would be there's a creative side of you that's not afraid to be you, right? That's not afraid to display all of your ideas, your thoughts, that to me is the edge.

Renata Barletto Coaching (24:00.7)
Hmm, got it. I love that. Yeah, I think every single person that I've seen as a coach, if they're really truly in it to impact lives, not just like, like, like, this is my offering and I can teach you how to buy my thing for this thing, whatever. People who are actually out here because they want to help other people. Every single person is so unique.

that like.

anyone can find someone that they click with and that they resonate with, right? And so what I've found and what I've continued to work on is figuring out what that looks like for me. Like, how do I get to be my most authentic self, especially on camera, right? Like millennials, we didn't grow up the same way. We didn't have the phones. We didn't have the cameras in our face growing up. So you still, still trying to find that shift or that,

Rob Pene (24:36.706)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Renata Barletto Coaching (25:02.5)
lose the performance type thing, right? And really become yourself so that it shows through. But I do, think that like, you want to call it edge or personality or authenticity is what I try to put out there so that people can understand that I'm a relatable human being. And that might mean talking, like I talk about all kinds of things on my page. I talk about sexual stuff because I help a lot of people in that area and I'm really passionate about sexual wellness and

Rob Pene (25:04.268)
Hmm

Renata Barletto Coaching (25:32.284)
like openness and freedom around that. But then I can also get into like really serious conversations around like trauma and like past addiction and like abuse and other things. And I want people to know that it's a safe space because I'm being me. So yeah, if it's an edge, then hell yeah, it's an edge.

Rob Pene (25:39.273)
Rob Pene (25:52.43)
Yeah, What would you say is your superpower? The one thing that, oh man, I did this and this is amazing and they'll remember that. Do you feel like there's a thing that you do that, oh, that's my stamp?

Renata Barletto Coaching (26:13.274)
in coaching specifically? Yeah. that's a great question. Honestly, it's very similar to what I just said. I feel like it's the authenticity.

Rob Pene (26:15.18)
Yeah. or even as a person.

Renata Barletto Coaching (26:28.998)
Yeah, I do. think it's that it's the ability to deeply, deeply connect as I am. I think it like creates this level of comfort and trust with people so that they're able to really to really open up. And yeah, yeah, of course. please. I love it. I've got plenty of edge.

Rob Pene (26:46.19)
Are you able push back? Is that OK?

Rob Pene (26:53.078)
Yeah. yeah. Yeah. I love the authenticity, but my grandma has authenticity, right? Yeah. So does... Yeah. I think it's more for you. I really do. I think it's something different. think it's... I mean, the top umbrella is authentic, right? Because there's a hundred percent... There's no faking about you, but I think there's more to it.

Renata Barletto Coaching (26:59.826)
Does she? Well, grandmas are pretty authentic. That's fair. Continue. Sorry.

Mmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (27:19.27)
Hmm.

Rob Pene (27:22.702)
I mean, I follow a ton of people, right? And I wanted to reach out to you because it's something, there's something, you know?

Renata Barletto Coaching (27:31.686)
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, that's that's fair. And pushbacks always welcome. I feel like in all of my relationships and my friendships, like I don't even I don't call that pushback. I call that like, well, sometimes we call it feedback. But but it's like it's holding someone high. Right. Like you didn't just ask me that because of the sake of this this interview. Right. You asked me that because you were genuinely like, no, fuck that. Like there's something else. Right. And I love that. I value that deeply. So thank you.

Rob Pene (28:00.332)
I think I got it. I think I got it.

Renata Barletto Coaching (28:02.726)
You got it? Okay. Do want me to share what I think and then you share yours? Okay.

Rob Pene (28:06.722)
Yes, I think know what resonates in my heart with you. Yeah, I think I've identified, yeah.

Renata Barletto Coaching (28:10.312)
Ooh, hell yeah. Okay, I love that. The other thing that comes up for me, and I don't know if this is relevant in my coaching, but it's like, it's my heart mixed with my power. So like my blend of my being and my doing, it's like soul, passion, love, like compassion, empathy, but then on fire.

Rob Pene (28:38.114)
Yeah.

Renata Barletto Coaching (28:41.192)
So that would be the real answer, I guess.

Rob Pene (28:45.422)
That's good, yeah. What's coming to my mind is the concept of glitz and glamour, but for you, in your case, it's that edge, right? It's the combo of grit and grace. Yeah, and as authentic as you are, when you look at your feed, it can be polarizing to some people, be like, my gosh, that's so like out there, but then you come with the fear is the launching pad to the next, right?

It's that delicate kind of balance between your edge and your encouragement, right? The grit and the grace. I feel strongly about the grit and the grace. It just screams you.

Renata Barletto Coaching (29:27.624)
Woo, grit and grace. Maybe I should change my podcast name to that. That's amazing. I give you some royalties for sure. I receive that. Thank you. It's a huge thing to be acknowledged for. So thank you for saying that. And it's not the first time I've heard that and you're, yeah, you're spot on. You're spot on. Sometimes it's harder to see those things within yourself, right?

Rob Pene (29:32.43)
That's good.

Renata Barletto Coaching (29:56.584)
because this is just, it's just who you are, right? Like I'm like, oh, it's my authenticity. Cause that's me, grit and grace. Yeah. I love my, some of my friends compare me to Khaleesi, which is like the biggest compliment on planet earth, you know, mother of dragons. And like, you know, similar grit and grace, right? Like she's a sexy badass and who doesn't want to be a sexy badass, right?

Rob Pene (30:11.511)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (30:15.278)
Hmm

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What kind of clients do you typically work with?

Renata Barletto Coaching (30:25.256)
Yeah, it's a great question. So it's a mix. I do, I really love transformational coaching. That's where I got into the space, but there was also a high demand for the kind of like the dating coaching as well. And so, yeah, and one of the sources that I use for lead generation is around that. And so,

Rob Pene (30:41.23)
Mmm.

Renata Barletto Coaching (30:52.168)
So right now that's it's a bit of both. And so my clients range, the age ranges are probably anywhere from 25 to on average 20, 25 to 40, but I do have a client or two in their sixties as well. So it really, it really is a huge range. I prefer to work with people, not prefer, I only work with people who are really, really ready to do the work.

whether they know what that looks like or not. It's a willingness and an openness. Someone who's like, you know what, I can tell that I meant for more and I don't care what more means to them in that moment, right? Like if they're feeling that feeling and they're acknowledging it, let's fucking go. I'll help you get there, right? And what's really cool is a lot of my dating coaching clients come to me because they want

Rob Pene (31:31.928)
Hmm

Renata Barletto Coaching (31:49.81)
to find their person. And in the midst of us coaching, they're like changing so much about their lives. And then it becomes like dating's not even the focus anymore because they're like switching up their morning routine. Like they're getting back into strong, like self-disciplinary habits. They're focusing on themselves again. They're finding out who they really are and what they really want. Maybe they're about to make like career shifts.

and like building themselves into the person that they get to be to be a great partner. And I'm happy to give dating advice as well, because that's part of it too. But it's beautiful to see somebody with an open heart that's just ready to improve. So, yeah.

Rob Pene (32:33.388)
Mm-hmm. And they find you on Instagram or how to just social or do you network in person?

Renata Barletto Coaching (32:41.766)
Yep, great question. Yes, so a little bit of everything.

I Instagram in person or people that I've known, right? Like people who have known me from the past. And I use a dating app as well, where I just kind of mention what I do in the dating app. Yeah. And so I don't advertise, right? I'm not saying like, I'm here to sell this, because that's not my intention. But it started off as just saying like, as a little blip on the bottom, just saying like,

If you are interested in profile advice, let me know, message me this word and I'd be happy to help you. and then I'm kind of like, you know, as a, as a dating and life coach, I like to help people in whatever way I can. And so people ended up reaching out to me through that. And then they're like, well, Hey, but you're a coach as well. Right. And then I'm like, yeah, absolutely. And so we get going on that conversation as well.

Rob Pene (33:43.736)
Nice, that's Wow.

Renata Barletto Coaching (33:45.832)
Yeah, it's interesting. It's an interesting space to do it.

Rob Pene (33:54.284)
Yeah, yeah, and then you have a podcast. You also have a book in a community or

Renata Barletto Coaching (34:00.174)
No, no book, just the podcast. called Rants with Ren. So that got started a few months ago. I'm about to publish the third one and I've recorded five now. So it's a slow coming, but it's been really fun.

Rob Pene (34:15.212)
Yeah, that's cool. Is there anything that you're working on that you're super excited about for the future? Or are you just going to keep rolling with what you're doing?

Renata Barletto Coaching (34:16.434)
Yeah.

Renata Barletto Coaching (34:23.24)
Yeah, that's a great question. I'm consistently coming up with stuff that like, like what's next, right? Because my, my vision for this is, is to build a brand where I can impact as many human beings as possible. And my, my vision for the world really is that every single person sees and understands their full potential and then actually lives in it. Right? Imagine what we were

all be capable of in this life if like, or what the world would look like if every single person was actually utilizing their gifts that they were given, right? And so with that in mind, right? I can't one-on-one coach every single person that ever lived, although I would love to. So yeah, so coming up with different programs, like some coach, like some group coaching programs.

building out different offerings. Like I have something called the crash out companion that I'm working on getting published. Yeah, so that it's just it's just a little thing for people who have never really done mindfulness work or breath work or meditation or anything like that. It's like a little intro. It has a little bit of everything. So one of those days when you just want to freaking punch something and you're just having a shit day, it's like a little guide book to help you regulate your nervous system and get back to baseline so that like

you can refocus and reshift without feeling like you failed your day.

Rob Pene (35:52.61)
Yeah, that sounds really the crash out companion. That's nice.

Renata Barletto Coaching (35:56.188)
Yeah, yeah, I'm excited about that. And today, you know, Rob, I was thinking about one of my dreams I've had for like 10 years is to open a dance studio. I absolutely love dancing. Yeah, so today I was like, you know, it would be very cool to have is like a combination dance studio that includes somatic work and like healing work as well.

so that people can come and learn how to just move their body in a way that releases energy and makes them feel better. Even if they feel like they have no idea how to dance, everybody knows how to dance in their body. yeah, so that was something that came up for me too. So lots, lots of exciting things in the works.

Rob Pene (36:37.802)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see the dance thing work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because people, when they work out, they get to release all that energy. So dancing plus music and all that stuff, that's pretty cool. Yeah.

Renata Barletto Coaching (36:49.232)
Yeah, yeah, we've gotten we've gotten far from it, right? Like in our society, we do a lot of linear movement or like masculine movement, like running, lifting, I love to lift and it's a great energy release. But dancing is different. It's so fluid and free. And it's a totally different kind of of energetic release.

Rob Pene (36:55.586)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (37:01.154)
for this.

Rob Pene (37:06.176)
I'm in.

Rob Pene (37:09.73)
Yeah, freeing, dancing is freeing, I like that.

Renata Barletto Coaching (37:12.666)
Yeah, do you like to dance?

Rob Pene (37:15.886)
I'm not, mean, I don't go dance and stuff, but I'm not opposed to it. I grew up on the island, so it's just something that we do. It's part of the culture. We just have to dance, celebrate and all that stuff. So yeah, it's...

Renata Barletto Coaching (37:25.245)
Yeah.

Yeah, what island if you don't mind me asking. Okay, yeah.

Rob Pene (37:30.584)
American Samoa. Yeah, it's south of Hawaii. So it's a Polynesian audience, including Hawaii or Hawaii. Yeah, Hawaii. Yeah.

Renata Barletto Coaching (37:40.466)
Yeah, I was just having this conversation with the last person I interviewed for my podcast and talking about how in a lot of American cultures, it's become not taboo to dance, just we've lost it. Like almost every culture, like to speak to what you just said, uses dance as a form of expression, of celebration, of mourning, of...

you know, acknowledging holidays, like whatever it may be, that's just like infused into the culture. And we've gotten so away from that. And I feel like it's another way that's just like keeping us all up in our heads and restricted.

Rob Pene (38:25.57)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They removed all the arts from school and yeah, that's where it usually starts. Crazy. That's crazy. Man, thank you for this conversation. This is very insightful. Got schooled a couple of times on a few things. I'm like, that's really good. I love it. No, no, it's perfect.

Renata Barletto Coaching (38:38.225)
Yeah, absolutely.

Renata Barletto Coaching (38:48.569)
I was not my intention, I find myself, sometimes I call myself the ethical bully. like it didn't, I didn't mean to do that, but it's not terrible.

Rob Pene (38:58.167)
Yes.

Rob Pene (39:03.072)
No, it's not. No, no, it was great. It displays your insight. That's what it does. Good, good. Is there an email, a website, a link Instagram people can go to?

Renata Barletto Coaching (39:06.984)
Amazing. Well, thank you so much, Rob.

Renata Barletto Coaching (39:16.488)
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Right now everything's on Instagram. I just find it to be one of the easiest ways. So it's at Renata Barletto R E N A T A B A R L E T T O. Um, and my Tik Tok is rants with Ren. Um, and that one's a little bit more like funny and silly and goofy. Whereas my Instagram is a little bit more on it's still me, but it's, it's more geared towards coaching. Um, and so yeah, those are the easiest ways right now. Yeah.

Rob Pene (39:44.94)
Nice, nice, nice. Okay, so everybody go check out that link. The link will be in description. All right, so appreciate you. Thanks for your conversation.

Renata Barletto Coaching (39:49.16)
Beautiful. Absolutely. Of course, Rob, thank you so much as well.

Rob Pene (39:57.238)
Yeah.