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From Pro Boxer to $5.4M Empire: How Lexson Mathieu Cashed Out at 26
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In this episode of Nice to Meet You for a Reason, Rob Pene sits down with Lexson Mathieu — former undefeated pro boxer, NABF champion, and serial acquisitions entrepreneur who built and sold a multi-million-dollar trucking empire before turning 27.
Lexson takes us through the wild arc of his last few years: leaving Canada during COVID with nothing but a backpack, putting his entire net worth into crypto to escape financial restrictions, making $50,000 in his first week as a crypto investor, and then walking away from speculation to buy real businesses.
You'll hear the unfiltered story of how he made 10,000 cold calls to land his first deal, why his first acquisition took a year and a half (and what he had to fix to close), and how he eventually closed five acquisitions in 18 months — including the "sell-lease-back" maneuver that pulled $300K out of a deal in two weeks.
This is a masterclass in M&A for anyone curious about how people actually buy businesses without their own money, build banking relationships from scratch, and structure deals where the asset finances itself.
We also get into the deeper stuff: why money stopped being the goal, how faith reshaped his vision, and his next move — building a roll-up empire in Africa while planting "a thousand seeds" through Bible study.
What You'll Learn:
- Why Lexson left pro boxing at the top of his career
- How he used crypto as a financial escape hatch during COVID
- The exact selling and negotiation framework that unlocked his first deal
- How he financed a $5.4M acquisition with two banks and no personal income
- The "sell-lease-back" strategy that pulls cash out of acquired assets
- Why he gave away 49% equity — and what he'd do differently now
- Why his next empire is being built in Africa, not North America
- The role faith plays in his definition of long-term success
Recommended Reading from Lexson:
- Your First Hundred Million by Dan Peña
- Robert Kiyosaki's books on assets vs. liabilities
Connect with Lexson: Instagram: @LexsonMathieu (DM him directly to join his weekly Bible study)
01.31) Okay, welcome everyone. Thanks for listening and tuning in. Rob here, grateful to be here. We have Alexan Matthew. It's gonna be a very interesting conversation. I'm excited to learn about everything that he's doing. The podcast is called Nice to Meet You for a Reason, because I genuinely am curious about people. So we'll display that here. But before we get started, I do wanna ask one question that should essentially set the foundation for our conversation moving forward, is if you look at the last six to 12 months of your life and you were to turn that into a Netflix movie, how would you describe your movie and what would it be about?
Lexson Mathieu (00:48.984) So, the last 12 months, let's say it's a documentary or a movie, it will be about selling your empire, cashing out on your businesses and changing your life. Not changing my life too much, but yes. Like, you know, right now I'm overseas. I'm on an island in the south of Asia. But my brother and I build our trucking empire in Canada.
Rob Pene (00:54.08) Mm-hmm. 59.062) Ooh.
Lexson Mathieu (01:18.062) in last couple of years. Now we cash out, we took a flight with all our family and we are now here. shifting our career a little bit. So it will be that.
Rob Pene (01:37.108) Okay, I like that. I like that. So it's basically cashing in on your empire. That's perfect. So I definitely want to talk about that. Now before we dive into what that looks like. Did you always have this idea that you would be doing this when you were young? Or did it eventually turn into this as you kind of grew older?
Lexson Mathieu (02:01.57) I always knew. But since I'm young, I was a boxer. I was boxing amateur. I won the Golden Glove, I think, seven times. I won the national Canadian competition amateur, think three or four times. really remember. I went into international competition, like the continental junior.
Rob Pene (02:07.38) Mm-hmm.
Lexson Mathieu (02:31.05) I won the golden medal. I didn't do the Olympic. I turned pro before. So I turned pro. I really thought I was going to make millions with pro boxing. But that was a bubble pop when I learned how much money you're making as a boxer in professional boxing. I was really disappointed. I thought I'm going to make way more money than that. So...
Rob Pene (02:34.89) Wow.
Lexson Mathieu (02:59.906) It was fun for a time doing pro boxing. was undefeated, top 15 in the world, NABF champion. But everything changed during COVID. During COVID, we couldn't sell tickets anymore. If we wanted to train, we have to train hiding because we couldn't go to gyms and stuff during that time. And in Quebec, where I'm from, it was even worse with the curfew and everything.
Rob Pene (03:13.046) Mmm.
Lexson Mathieu (03:31.151) If I wanted to perhaps one day box again, they wanted me to get vaccinated. was still super against it. So I had no choice to take a flight and leave. So my brother and I packed our things, our backpack and we left. I left Canada with nothing. I left everything behind. Both of my apartments, all my furniture, my car. Back then, the only country that the border were open was Mexico. Everything else was closed. So when we took our stuff and went to the airport to leave Canada, the airport was empty. Beside, the local television was there with the camera crew and Mike and they were looking for someone to blame that they will bring back COVID. So when they saw us leaving, they run, not walk toward us, they run toward us. asking us, do you feel, don't you feel bad to bring back COVID into the country and blah, blah, blah, blah. I had no comment. I didn't respond to anything. You didn't know that I was not coming back. So we took a plane and we went to Cabo San Lucas. Cabo San Lucas, we didn't even know what Cabo San Lucas looked like. It was just the first tickets that I booked. Before landing, I saw on the plane that it was a big desert.
Rob Pene (04:51.222) enough.
Lexson Mathieu (04:57.474) cactus and everything. So once I learned, once I learned rent an apartment, rent a car before leaving for, before leaving for Mexico, I took all my money and I put it into cryptocurrency. Not because I wanted to make money, but I wanted to have control over my finance. I didn't want them to say, no, Mr. Matthew, cannot.
Rob Pene (05:22.262) Mmm.
Lexson Mathieu (05:27.406) Come and withdraw your money because you're not vaccinated. So you cannot come into the office, something like that. So I put everything into crypto and I left for Cabo for Mexico. Two weeks in, crypto went crazy. Go crazy. Go up. It was in 2020, 2021. Yeah. was December. It was a new year, 2021. I was in Mexico.
Rob Pene (05:31.027) Yeah.
Lexson Mathieu (05:53.999) And started making money. remember first week I made $50,000 without work, without doing nothing. I felt like in the cloud. My life changed completely. I never wanted to go back in bucks again. I remember when I called all my sponsors and I said, now don't pay me anymore. I won't stop boxing. I won't box again. I called my manager at that time and I said, by respect, stop paying me. I will not box again. I will retire or do something else. And my manager, he owned the biggest promotion company, boxing promotion company in Canada. It's called Eye of the Tiger. And he's doing that for fun because he loved boxing. Because in life, what he's doing for his money, he's a wealth manager. He's a really good wealth manager. He's managing $10 billion for... his clients. Like every time I had a fight because he loved boxing, before the fight or after the fight, he invited me and my brothers to his home for barbecue and stuff like that. And he loved talking about boxing and asked a lot of questions about finance. He gave me a lot of books to read, a lot of tips, how to judge if it's a good investment or not and stuff like that. So when I called him and I was in Mexico and I said, okay, I will
Rob Pene (07:16.736) Yes.
Lexson Mathieu (07:21.742) Stop boxing said Nixon. You should you should start a an investment fund You was talking about an edge fund that not time. It's fun. It's like to buy stocks or cryptocurrency With other people's money put into a fund But my brother and I Didn't want to continue speculating on coins and stock but anyway after Mexico
Rob Pene (07:46.998) Mm-hmm.
Lexson Mathieu (07:51.257) We travel a lot because crypto and money was good, life was good. once by then, like family and friends were sending us money to invest in crypto for them. I remember I called my mother to say, refinance the home, like the equity that you have in the home. Send me the money in Thailand in a swift transfer. I will put everything into Bitcoin. And I doubled her money with that.
Rob Pene (07:57.11) You
Rob Pene (08:20.98) Wow.
Lexson Mathieu (08:21.324) So my family loved me for that. But one day I said, okay, it's enough. We're not gonna, it said the crypto market, it's a bubble. It's not sustainable. We're gonna just live off of that. I remember when Vitalik, the founder of Ethereum, said himself that he's gonna sell his Ethereum because his product was too over-speculated. That's when I sold everything. And that was at the top of the bubble.
Rob Pene (08:31.765) Hmm.
Lexson Mathieu (08:50.706) around $4,500 the Ethereum. I sold everything. I sold all our coins and we sat on good money. And now we said, we're stop speculating on coins. We're gonna buy real assets, real businesses. So that's when I got introduced into &A Merge and Acquisition on buying real businesses. You know, it's easy buying a coin. Go ahead.
Rob Pene (09:06.388) Mmm. 16.436) Now, what made you think about real businesses versus like doing something different, you know?
Lexson Mathieu (09:28.398) Perhaps because of the books that I was reading at that time, Robert was like, he reached out for that. I figured out that he was talking about when he sent assets, when he talked about assets or liabilities, when talking about an asset, he don't talk about a duplex or triplex. He was talking about like buying an insurance company, stuff like that. Like himself, he's buying a gold mine and stuff like that. That's an asset for him.
Rob Pene (09:31.583) Okay. of 50.996) Mm. Mm. Okay. Right.
Lexson Mathieu (09:57.005) not a duplex or a house. That's not it. And in this book also a guide to invest. Also we talk about that. The best way to, the best investment you can make is investment that you create. Bring value to your shares. A lot of stuff. The best book I read for &A for &A sorry for acquisition, is the book of Dan Pena, Your First Hundred Million. That was great.
Rob Pene (09:59.871) Okay.
Rob Pene (10:16.757) Mm-hmm. 25.244) Okay, yeah. Okay.
Lexson Mathieu (10:26.766) That was great. By the way, I just followed this model. So I went back in Canada when the restrictions were down to come and buy businesses. I thought it gonna be easy to buy a business like buying, perhaps not like buying a coin, but easier than that. Still, we didn't know how to do it, so we recruited a of people who did it before. We gave them equity of our company.
Rob Pene (10:37.652) Wow.
Lexson Mathieu (10:55.886) start prospecting. Once we build a team, we start prospecting. I did at least 10,000 cold calls. I did at least 10,000 cold calls to find my first opportunity, my first deal. It took me so long. I thought I'm going to be in Canada for like a month or two to buy my first business. No, it took me a year and a half buying my first business. And because I'm not a quitter, I couldn't just quit and do something else. It took me a lot of time.
Rob Pene (11:03.459) No way!
Lexson Mathieu (11:24.92) When I think about it now, I got older doing that. It took me a lot of time.
Rob Pene (11:28.726) So, okay, that's good. I have a question. Now that you've experienced all that, if you were to go back and talk to your 18 year old self and say, hey, I spent a year and a half doing this, follow these steps so you can spend maybe a month doing it. What would you recommend or do you think it does take that long to find a deal?
Lexson Mathieu (11:52.737) No, I had a problem with my approach, with my selling skills and how I negotiate. It didn't make sense how I, nothing didn't make sense, but I had to learn how to sell and negotiate. Because it made no sense after a year that I wasn't able to close a deal. So I went to see my mentor, my previous manager, the guy who managed 10 billion and I said,
Rob Pene (11:58.55) Okay.
Rob Pene (12:07.551) Okay. 18.538) Yep. Yep.
Lexson Mathieu (12:21.678) I have a problem on a table too. said, listen, it's not normal that you didn't close it. Didn't sign one offer in one year. walk me through everything and I walk him through everything. I show him my contract. said, first of all, take this close of the contract off. It's really scary. He taught me everything. Like when you go to a meeting, bring a yellow pad. Yellow because it trigger a mental thing. I don't remember how it is, but still.
Rob Pene (12:27.669) Yeah. 42.101) Hmm.
Lexson Mathieu (12:51.854) When people have some objection, when they have some, not conflict, but objection. Like, I think your balance of self of five years is too much or this or that. Don't respond to the problem right now. Just write it down, write it down, write it down and ask what else that stop us from moving forward and write it down. And after, ask him, is it like all of this, like this five point.
Rob Pene (12:59.947) Yep. Yep.
Lexson Mathieu (13:20.94) Is it everything that stops us from moving forward? When they say yes, now we respond to their concern with good answers. After you ask for a business, push. you need to be a closer, you need to push for the business. So I start to be way more pushy. Way, way more pushy. And meeting people in person that help a lot. I was thinking like I can just do things via Zoom meetings. Didn't work like that. Once you want to do a big transaction, someone that wants to sell his company, you need to be face to face. Need to be face to face, eye to eye, in a closed door and say the real thing. So yeah, it's how I structured it.
Rob Pene (13:45.046) Mmm. Mm-hmm.
Lexson Mathieu (14:12.622) structure the contract and how I push for the business. I need to push to close this.
Rob Pene (14:12.8) What was the question? 19.402) So what was your first acquisition?
Lexson Mathieu (14:22.35) So my first acquisition, it was a trucking company named Bojoli of $5.4 million. That was my first acquisition. Yes. Yeah, that's what I paid for. I paid for it I paid that. It was a huge selection because of the real estate. Listen how it went down. I was just a real estate guy. I didn't like real estate at all. I was not interested in real estate. But I'm doing cool calls.
Rob Pene (14:30.666) Wow, that's what you paid for or that's what their revenue is? 41.971) Okay. 46.516) Okay, yeah.
Lexson Mathieu (14:53.582) Pick up the phone again, I dial some guy respond. Hey, can I speak with the is the bus around? Yeah, it passed me the owner say we don't know each other personally. My name is Matthew. I don't even say Lexan because it's like scary. They don't understand this name because my my name is Lexan Matthew. But anyway, I just say Matthew and say we don't know each other personally. I'm buying businesses. They want to sell. I say yes, wants to sell and say how much you want.
Rob Pene (15:09.354) Thank you.
Lexson Mathieu (15:23.566) told me a number, said, okay, how much you making per year in net, like in EBITDA? Give me another number. And for me, it didn't make sense because he asked me for too much. He said, forget it, you're never gonna sell. I hang up. And my brother was in front of me. said, but Alexan, is the real estate included in that price? I said, yeah, it's a huge asset. let's ask him again. So I called back, I speak with the boss, I hey, it's me.
Rob Pene (15:33.142) Thank you.
Lexson Mathieu (15:51.407) In the part that you asked, is the real site is included? He said yes. I said, okay, makes sense. Let's meet. A week after, we meet in person. So it was three owners, one old guy, like 84 years old. The other one was a bit younger, like 50, 60 years old. But the majority owner was 84. Jean Guy's name. And we walk around his business. He wants to work on his yard and everything. He showed me his business and everything. I yeah, it's interesting. Like I want to buy the business, but I don't want to buy the real estate. I want you to keep the real estate and just let's make a rent. I'm going to pay you rent every month. So it's another passive income for you when you retire. He said, no, me, I want to sell everything or nothing.
Rob Pene (16:42.686) Mm-hmm
Lexson Mathieu (16:44.652) Okay, how much you want for the real estate? How much you want for the building? Say $1 million on top. So equally like $5.4 million, like trucks, real estate and everything. I look at my brother, I knew that the building was worth more than that. I didn't know how much it worth, but it was worth more than a million for sure. So I okay, yeah, yeah. We signed the letter of intent, the LOI. After...
Rob Pene (17:01.526) Mmm. 11.157) Mm-hmm.
Lexson Mathieu (17:13.966) hire a firm to evaluate the building. The evaluation came out at 2.1 million.
Rob Pene (17:22.218) Wow.
Lexson Mathieu (17:26.126) So what I did, I went to a bank here in Canada called BDC. It's a bank for entrepreneur. Go to them with the evaluation and because your owner, how to say owner occupied, owner occupied, anywhere like your own and you stay there, they finance you 100 % of the market value. So $2.1 million, I got it financed at 100%.
Rob Pene (17:47.669) Wow. 57.005) Wow!
Lexson Mathieu (17:58.563) So even if I was not the real estate guy, wasn't interested in real estate at all, I made my first million, in fact, my first $1.1 million with real estate. So yeah, that was my first deal. The rest was just trucks, and I bought the company. After that, I did four of the acquisition in the lapse of like 18 months.
Rob Pene (18:15.989) Yeah. 24.308) Wow, so deals came faster after you broke that first one.
Lexson Mathieu (18:27.554) Yeah, understand, I understood how to move things forward. I understood how to, yeah.
Rob Pene (18:31.732) Yeah. Yeah. Did you have money to purchase all that stuff or like what gave you the confidence to just make the phone calls and be like, yeah, I want to buy your business.
Lexson Mathieu (18:44.942) That's how I got taught the model. I find this old man, Dan Pena on YouTube, he talked about buying businesses. I listened to all his video, I read his book. said, okay, that's how we do it, because I didn't know how to buy a business. He said, that's how you do it, so I did it. I did it, I just picked up the phone and I dialed everyone. yeah.
Rob Pene (18:47.53) Okay. 52.234) Yep. Yep. Okay.
Rob Pene (19:11.232) That's incredible.
Lexson Mathieu (19:12.622) And for a year and a half, know, I spent a lot of money. spent, I needed that deal to be closed. Now in suits, car, you know, all the meeting with restaurant, I had to buy flower suits, secretary to, to pass the gatekeeper and everything. cost a lot of money. So I had to close this deal. And Dan Pena said, if it's a good deal, you don't put your money on this deal. If you need to put money because whether you're a moron or it's not a good deal. And he's right. A good deal stands by itself. The bank finance deals, I won't say 100%, but you got multiple banks involved. Like my first deal, I got two banks involved and both of the banks financed it. BDC for the real estate that overfinanced 1.1 million and the other was TV that financed the trucks and the line of credit.
Rob Pene (20:02.486) because you're killing
Lexson Mathieu (20:11.586) was like that. My last acquisition at a trucking company. It started with a $6 million transaction. We were able to negotiate down to $3 million. The company was making $1 million in profit. And the deal was like that. I said to the owner, I'm to give you $2 million right now and $1 million in five years after I pay back the bank because the loan was for on five years. He said, okay, no problem. Went to the bank. The bank offered us an offer to finance us $2.5 million.
Rob Pene (20:27.36) Mm-hmm. 48.904) Lexson Mathieu (20:49.262) 53.622) All right, yep.
Rob Pene (21:12.757) Mm-hmm.
Lexson Mathieu (21:17.326) He wants $300,000 on the table from me. It's okay. Is it okay if I take the money from the sellers? What do mean? Like, really truly borrow the money from the sellers? No problem, just find $300,000 to put as equity. So I asked the seller, I said, lend me $300,000 for two weeks only. And I promise you that we'll pay you back within two weeks. I was not supposed really to pay him back, okay, because I had to put $300,000 on the table for five years. But what I done is as soon as I closed the deal with his $300,000 in the account of the business, he led in there, within a week, I did something that we call a sell lease back. So I took my trucks that I own, I sold it to a dealership.
Rob Pene (22:08.64) Mmm.
Lexson Mathieu (22:15.31) and I rented back from this dealership. So it's just a move of paperwork because my trucks never left my yard. But the ownership of my truck went to this dealership. He gave me, I sold two trucks like that. He gave me $600,000 and I rented back. I have a contract of five years paying him monthly to use the truck. And after five years, I pay him a last like $100 and the trucks come back to me. So it's called a...
Rob Pene (22:43.798) Okay, okay.
Lexson Mathieu (22:45.526) It's called a buy to lease, something like that in English.
Rob Pene (22:49.184) Yeah.
Lexson Mathieu (22:52.033) I took the $600,000. I gave back the owner $300,000. So he left with it. So his first $300,000 is still in the business account and another $300,000 for myself on the $600,000. So that was one of my last deals that I'd done. So good deals like that, you're able to figure it out, figure it out a way.
Rob Pene (23:13.108) That's impressive.
Lexson Mathieu (23:21.454) close and to buy companies without your own money.
Rob Pene (23:25.994) For the banks, did you have a prior relationship? And did you go back to the same banks for multiple deals? Or do you recommend to go to different banks and build relationships basically with everybody and then you put the paper out and whoever jumps, jumps, right? What's your recommendation?
Lexson Mathieu (23:42.575) Yeah, it's a process. don't have to, you of course not focus on just one bank. I didn't have any banking relationship back then. When I left Canada, I was a teenager almost. I was like 20, 21. My brother was even younger. He never had a credit card before. His credit didn't even exist. So in the model, we had to build banking relationship before. finding our first deal. So my brother, think he interviewed at least a hundred bankers, at least.
Rob Pene (24:19.978) Wow.
Lexson Mathieu (24:22.296) We had to connect with them on LinkedIn, sending cold email, explaining that we are a new company looking to build a new financial relationship with the institute that has been recommended. went into a lot of meetings, like nothing in their office, restaurants, coffee and stuff. And looking for the best fit, someone who understands our model and wants to lend us money. Because bankers, how do they put food on their table to feed their family? It's by lending money people like me. So I had to find the right banker who wanted to finance our dreams. We had to interview a lot of people. Yeah, you had to build a lot of financials, race and ship. And when you have like five, six bankers that look interested, and when you have a good deal, you can submit to five, six of them. And after they come back with offers, and they compete with each other with offers.
Rob Pene (25:02.74) normal relationships. 14.915) Hmm. 19.902) Yeah. And it has nothing to do with you. It has everything to do with the deal.
Lexson Mathieu (25:25.322) Exactly. I had no proof of income. I have no job. No high school, nothing. like I couldn't, if I wanted, if I tried, I couldn't buy a house. I will never pass for financing to buy a house or a duplex or anything like that. I had to go big or go home because when you go big, they look at the company itself, not your personal
Rob Pene (25:33.759) Wow!
Lexson Mathieu (25:54.543) network and your personal income doesn't make sense. So I had no choice to go big. So that's why I think our first question was $5.4 million. Can't even money. Nowadays, I think it isn't money is like money. So I still it's still a couple million dollars in the US dollars also. Yeah. Yeah.
Rob Pene (26:04.907) Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 12.458) That's still good. Yeah, that's still good. Now are all of your businesses trucking companies?
Lexson Mathieu (26:18.806) No, one of them was moving company, was a moving company. Yeah, but it's still kind of related, yeah. Trucking and moving is kind of easy because of the assets. It's easy to finance because of the assets. Like one of my last deals, you can always do some sell lease back. Financing your assets is more easier than just cash flow lending. So yeah.
Rob Pene (26:31.318) Mmm. 43.646) Mmm. 47.39) And you hire operators to run all those.
Lexson Mathieu (26:50.594) Yes, that's another challenge. When you don't have experience and you have to find a good operator, by chance, I took some industry expert, people who are semi-retired in the industry, give them like two, 3 % of my old thing and they sit on my advisory board and they helped me interview operators to a But even then I had problems, I a lot of problems. Like this model, it's a lot of problems that you have to solve every day. But the money is there also. Like I remember when I had fucked up problems, I had to come up with fucked up solution. And you know, on all of that on my company, I only own 51 % of all of that. I only own 51%. Why? Because I gave so much equity to a lot of people. I didn't know how to do &A. So I had to.
Rob Pene (27:24.022) Mmm. 31.478) You 45.608) huh.
Lexson Mathieu (27:49.922) I was approaching people that I didn't know on LinkedIn and I gave them free from the equity.
Rob Pene (27:55.029) Wow. And you would do it differently now.
Lexson Mathieu (28:00.942) No, I will still give a lot of equity to other people to build something big. But at least now I can filter the people who are competent and not competent because when you have no experience you don't know how to filter them. You just bring people on board that you think they will bring value but now I know.
Rob Pene (28:08.822) Mmm. 18.378) Yeah. 23.784) Yeah. And are you going to stick in the movie and then trucking company for your next acquisitions or are you going to like venture into software or, or, you know, other stuff online?
Lexson Mathieu (28:37.742) I wish I could put my hands on software and stuff like that, but they're asking for way too much money. Like all the tech industry, cyber security and everything, they're asking for a lot of money. I'm not sure I'm gonna find something that is reasonable. I'm looking into manufacturing, trucking again, but this time not in America, in Africa.
Rob Pene (28:39.83) AI.
Rob Pene (29:03.059) Whoa.
Lexson Mathieu (29:04.5) I'm doing a shift, a change. I want to same thing, Conglomerate, a roll-up in Africa.
Rob Pene (29:14.88) Wow, wow, wow. Dude, this is impressive, man. Yeah, it's just so exciting. And you dropped some really good information that, at least for me, it's new knowledge. So I'm grateful for it. What's the ultimate goal for you at the end of the day?
Lexson Mathieu (29:19.336) Thank you. 33.102) I know money is just money. it's really, I was saying friends, FMR is just win. It's running after the win. It's great to be able to take care of your family and everything, but I saw how time passed. Now I'm almost 27. I, time passed so fast and.
Rob Pene (29:48.725) Mmm.
Lexson Mathieu (29:56.993) What for me what matters is your relationship with God, your art creator. So I started to put way more effort on building my community, my Bible study, my circle Bible study, what I can teach to other people about the Bible and stuff like that to my children eventually.
Rob Pene (30:04.308) Mmm. Mmm. 15.594) Yeah. Good.
Lexson Mathieu (30:27.886) That's for me, that's what's important. So in 10 years, if I want to look back, yes, buying companies, like building again other trucking empires or manufacturing empires or whatever, but also preaching. Preaching for me is very important.
Rob Pene (30:31.413) Yeah. 45.31) Yeah, amen. So I'll email you to a group. It's a global men's Christian group, businessmen. It's a Christian entrepreneurs business group. And they meet on zoom and then they also have quarterly meetups in person. I think that might be something exciting just to be a part of and you know, contribute your knowledge to because I'm sure a lot of guys
Lexson Mathieu (31:10.467) Hmm.
Rob Pene (31:12.042) would have some questions I can learn and obviously I'll share the podcast with them. I'm in California and the guy I'm connected to is here in California, Orange County, but he might know of people like in your area, but if you're open to it, I'll definitely send you Mark's contact, get you connected.
Lexson Mathieu (31:29.134) Yeah, perhaps. The only problem with Christians, not the only, but one of the major problems is they are against the law in the Bible. They say that the law is in a way, the law is a curse. Well, the law of God is basically a guide on how to thrive as a people. Like, for example, one of the laws is, not lend at interest to your brother. So if my brother wants to launch a business, I will not say, okay, you need the hundred grand to start. I'm going give you a hundred grand at 10 % interest and if you don't pay me back, I can seize your house. That's not love. What love is, is yeah, you have a project. I believe in your project. Let's get in as partners. Let's get equity. I give out, put you a hundred grand down. I have equity in the project. If it go well, I participate in the up, upscale and if it go bad, I'm going down with you like we are brothers. That's love.
Rob Pene (32:04.971) Yeah.
Lexson Mathieu (32:28.28) That's one thing. But you have way other things like that. That's one thing. yeah, in the law, in the Bible, look at the Torah, the first books of the Bible, you have a lot of ways on, it tells you how to do business. So yeah, it's really important for me to learn off that.
Rob Pene (32:43.254) Mmm. 47.862) It's good. I like that you you talked about you just mentioned that love because at the end of the day that's what Jesus says you know is to love God and love your neighbor and And that's gonna be the
Lexson Mathieu (32:58.662) Mm-hmm. Then he said in John, think 14, he said, what is love? He said, love is following the commandments of my father. and his commandment is not heavy, that's what he add. Because love can be really wide like, you know, a lot of people use love as a cheval de trois, know, to toy a horse with what they do, but it's not really love. Real love, how to demonstrate love, how to apply it, it's in the Bible, how to.
Rob Pene (33:16.031) Yeah. 32.971) Yeah.
Lexson Mathieu (33:42.956) really carry love, how to show love.
Rob Pene (33:45.566) Yeah, yeah. And his ultimate sacrifice, know, him leaving the comforts of heaven, Jesus coming down, giving his self to us is the ultimate, you know, display of love and love, perfect love casts out all fear. So if there's any inhibitions that hold you back, just read the Bible and trust the Lord and all that stuff. So that's good, man. Good for you. Yeah.
Lexson Mathieu (34:08.302) You know, yeah, time passes very fast and the only thing that lasts is really like, yeah, the Word of God, I really believe. I want to see, let's say, 10 years from now, not even 10 years, three years from now, yes, I will have businesses, yes, I will have made money, but what I want to see is a community of people who studying the Bible and the law and applying what God asks us to do. I want to at least plant a thousand seed. I want to at least plant a thousand. Like plant at least 10 seed that will go out and plant 10 other seed and those plant 10 other seed to get like a thousand. That's what I want to see in three years. So that's why I start my Bible study every week with people who are interested.
Rob Pene (34:41.269) Yeah. 56.182) yeah.
Rob Pene (35:01.684) Yeah, is it online? Like, can people join on Zoom? thanks.
Lexson Mathieu (35:04.462) Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think a lot of people like, like I said to them often, I don't want to be a big church when people like come for 10, 20 years, sing and dance. No, I said to them, said, I'm going to teach you what I have to teach for the next six months. We're going to learn all the laws, all the ways to live. And after it's to you to go out there and teach what you learn. to other people for a couple months. So, yeah.
Rob Pene (35:39.946) That's great, dude. That's great. So if people wanted to join the Bible study or to connect with you and find you and ask questions, where would they go?
Lexson Mathieu (35:48.95) on Instagram. It's way easier to just go on Instagram, LexanMatur, it's my name, and just DM me.
Rob Pene (35:50.485) Okay. 56.468) Yeah. Okay, perfect. Yeah, I'll add that to the show notes so people can see it and connect with you, man. This is good. I appreciate it. Thank you for sharing, brother.
Lexson Mathieu (36:02.126) Thank you. Thank you very much. No problem.
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